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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 02:26 am
poisontaster

disarm_d's post is flocked.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 02:27 am
gmth.livejournal.com

The disarm_d post appears to be f-locked.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 02:27 am
used_songs

The second link is a locked post.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 02:28 am
elf

disarm_d's post is now locked. (It happened sometime in the last twenty minutes; it was there when I started a reply, and gone by the time I hit "post comment.")

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 03:00 am
scrollgirl.livejournal.com

Yeah, I was going to point that out too, everyone seems to be on top of it!

But It's too bad, because I think it's fair to have an opposing opinion. I guess they didn't feel comfortable sharing with a wider audience.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 02:32 am
callistra.livejournal.com

I guess I don't need to point out...
LOL
:-)


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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 03:11 am
loveanddarkness.livejournal.com

Shame the post is f-locked, I wanted to see the prices on DW.

Not that I will pay them, being a permanent account holder and being way too disinclined to abandon a journal I've had close to 8 years for this new 'fannish' thing.

I sound old and bitter saying that, but honest, DW annoys me. Heard a Republican started it too.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 03:34 am
blindingsight.livejournal.com

Shame the post is f-locked, I wanted to see the prices on DW.

The prices she linked are here (http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Account_levels), if you wanted to take a look.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 09:59 am
liviapenn.livejournal.com


Co-founder, not founder, and he self-describes as a conservative here (http://synecdochic.livejournal.com/307463.html). Not quite the same as being "started by a Republican."

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 12:40 pm
loveanddarkness.livejournal.com

Distinction without a difference. Still not getting my money.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 07:10 pm
liviapenn.livejournal.com


I wasn't trying to sell you on the service. I just thought you'd prefer the actual facts over some random rumor that you heard somewhere.

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Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009, 03:42 am
loveanddarkness.livejournal.com

Conservative not Republican, co-founder not founder.

I was pretty darned close to those facts. And it still won't be seeing my money.


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Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009, 04:43 am
liviapenn.livejournal.com


Wait, so what are you saying? You're *not* going to be buying a Dreamwidth account...? ^_^ I have grasped that by now, honest.

I have to say I'm curious though-- you decided to boycott a company based on a half-truth that you just "heard" somewhere? And yes, you were "pretty close," but is that usually how you go about it? Decide to boycott first, without actually bothering to do the research and find out the facts before you start spreading rumors?

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Wed, Apr. 22nd, 2009, 12:07 am
fifi-bonsai.livejournal.com

I haven't really made up my mind yet, either way, (though I am kind of skeeved by this) but what is exactly the difference between a Conservative who would never vote Democrat and a Republican? I'm not trying to start any wankery here, but I can see loveanddarkness' point.

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Wed, Apr. 22nd, 2009, 12:40 am
porridgebird.livejournal.com

Sorry to butt in, but there really is an important difference. I've had my head bit off more than once for calling a Conservative a Republican (apparently this is tantamount to calling them "liberal").

Examples of self-identified "Conservative, but not Republicans" include Sean Hannity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Hannity) and Michael Savage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage_(commentator)). Savage lists the differences between Republican and Conservative on his site, but I'm not going to link to it and give him hits. You can find it easily, if you are interested.

The issue I'm really curious about is the strong Conservative position against pornography. (I believe porn will still be allowed on DW, though. I haven't heard otherwise.)

back to lurking

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Wed, Apr. 22nd, 2009, 12:45 am
fifi-bonsai.livejournal.com


Sorry to butt in, but there really is an important difference. I've had my head bit off more than once for calling a Conservative a Republican (apparently this is tantamount to calling them "liberal").


Oh. O.O Why does this not reassure me at all?

Thank you, though. I'll look for that list. ♥

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Wed, Apr. 22nd, 2009, 03:27 am
jennem.livejournal.com

He actually sounds more libertarian, than anything else, and there is a very large difference between a libertarian and a Republican.

As for what's the difference? I'd say this:



I disagree with Denise on just about every major thing there is. Really.

Except the one that matters: everybody's right to be who they want to be, believe what they want to believe, and the imperative that we all respect that.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 08:56 pm
fifi-bonsai.livejournal.com

Thank you for that. It's something I'll certainly take into consideration before even thinking of going for my wallet.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 04:17 am
maerhys.livejournal.com

The post is now unlocked.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 04:35 am
tree

not anymore.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 04:45 am
maerhys.livejournal.com

*smh* Strange.

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 11:38 am
trytobedull.livejournal.com

http://jassanja.dreamwidth.org/1149.html

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 03:14 pm
sidewinder.livejournal.com

Dreamwidth: Fandom Jumps Ship . . . Again

http://pfeffermuse.livejournal.com/21995.html

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Mon, Apr. 20th, 2009, 05:19 pm
zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com

This entry wasn't posted to metafandom on Dreamwidth.

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Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009, 03:52 am
loveanddarkness.livejournal.com

Of course not. It doesn't have codes so people aren't glomping onto it to go namesquat or guard 'communities' from being poached or be a BNF or pretend to be a BNF.

Dreamwidth = Mackay's Madness of Crowds.

There is no *reason* for it, like there was a reason for a journal service as an improvement over usenet and mail lists.

They can't "protect" fans or "free speech" any better under US laws than any other service out there. What, are they going to be more earnest about it? Hire better lawyers? Stomp their little feet?

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Tue, Apr. 21st, 2009, 04:27 am
zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com

Well, metafandom is currently posting to Dreamwidth, so I thought they might like to know something went wrong with their crossposting process.

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Wed, Apr. 22nd, 2009, 03:29 am
jennem.livejournal.com

Shhhhh. No using logic. Its not allowed!

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Sun, Apr. 26th, 2009, 10:03 pm
metafandombot.livejournal.com

coming in extremely belatedly (oh dear God, I wish I had seen some of this as it was going on to be able to step in) what actually happened was that we had only just started to crosspost to Dreamwidth at this point and lovelokest had somehow missed getting the right posting accesses set up yet.

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Mon, Apr. 27th, 2009, 02:17 pm
zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com

No big, I figured it was something like that.

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Sun, Apr. 26th, 2009, 10:03 pm
metafandombot.livejournal.com

and, er, that was fairestcat. Sorry.

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Sun, Apr. 26th, 2009, 11:10 pm
cesy.livejournal.com

I may be repeating things other people have already said to you, but I see several "reasons for Dreamwidth". Most of them aren't related to fandom at all, but general blogging, and are because this is a code fork, not a clone, and it's being actively developed.

There is integration with OpenID, which is important for people using other blogging platforms. There is the ability for all users (not just paid users) to create feeds, which is similarly useful. There are higher limits on posts, which is just as useful for people wanting to post essays or get into detailed debates as it is for people writing fanfiction. There is an import tool which is useful for backups. There will soon be the ability to read locked posts across sites, which will enable me to keep in touch more easily with the friends who moved to IJ. There is also a welcoming attitude towards new developers, which I have not found at any other Open Source project I have looked at. As a fairly new programmer who is keen on Open Source, that is a big draw for me. There is also the split of subscribe/access, which is useful for me to follow blogs I like without having to give them access to my private life. I could do this with filters before, but the new way is much easier. Most of these are incremental changes, rather than the huge change from Usenet, bulletin boards or mailing lists, but taken together, they are enough for my primary site / feeling of "home" to move, though I will still keep up with the old one, just as I still keep up with my mailing lists.

I also haven't seen any claims by Dreamwidth that they will "protect" anything other than US law. I have seen a claim that they will stick to US law rather than an ignorant paranoid guess at it, but that is rather different.

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Sun, Apr. 26th, 2009, 11:15 pm
loveanddarkness.livejournal.com

I'm done talking about Dreamwidth.

There are good points about it, I'm sure.

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