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January 26th, 2010
11:40 pm
- melannen: Hi! I am still lacking energy to do anything - If, like me, you recently got weird malware on your system that tried to get you to install anti-virus software, and couldn't figure out where from because you'd only been on trustworthy sites, you probably got it from an ad running on Livejournal. -
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51stcenturyfox: Huh. - Uh... you do... realise that in fanfiction you can write female characters better and write them into healthy, hot, sex-positive relationships even if those don't exist in the source material, right? This is not really more farfetched than a story about two canonically straight guys falling in love with each other and running through a field of daisies and fucking all over desks and spaceships and getting m-pregnant? -
- china_shop: it's not a miracle, but it feels like one - Some differences I've noticed between my writing and vidding processes -
- lyssie: The more things change.... ALL OF THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. - Step 7. Explain to your friends list how you like this one movie/show and the woman (possibly plural) in it because it subverts gender types and tropes, and how AWESOME it is, but how sad you are that you can never talk about it (or women) because everyone you know is a boyslasher. And you wouldn't want to dare harsh their squee by talking about vaginas. -
- le_mru: metafandom - Lubię het, ale kiedy jest to het - z braku słów - subwersywny, nie heteronormatywne pici polo, które nas otacza i które spływa z ekranów kin i telewizorów. Bo chyba też po to jest fandom, żeby tworzyć alternatywę, coś nowego, coś innego. -
- hl: about: warnings - A warning is not a judgement on the people who made the content. It can also be accompanied with a private or public judgement (to say anything else would be disingenuous), but a warning in itself has nothing to do with the author of that content. It's a call made by the one putting up the warning (i.e. it's a call made by a person or a group, and thus, invariably subjective and flawed) done for the benefit of the people who don't, yet, know the content. -
- mistresscurvy: On Privilege and Responsibility - There is a huge difference between saying that there are instances of problematic characterizations or plot points or objectification that should be addressed and saying that women aren't allowed to write about gay men's experiences fullstop. The fact that there are examples of fail within a genre doesn't mean that the entirety of the genre is rotten. -
11:41 pm
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oula: tuesday, January 26th, 2010
- melannen: Hi! I am still lacking energy to do anything - If, like me, you recently got weird malware on your system that tried to get you to install anti-virus software, and couldn't figure out where from because you'd only been on trustworthy sites, you probably got it from an ad running on Livejournal. -
- 51stcenturyfox: Huh. - Uh... you do... realise that in fanfiction you can write female characters better and write them into healthy, hot, sex-positive relationships even if those don't exist in the source material, right? This is not really more farfetched than a story about two canonically straight guys falling in love with each other and running through a field of daisies and fucking all over desks and spaceships and getting m-pregnant? -
- china_shop: it's not a miracle, but it feels like one - Some differences I've noticed between my writing and vidding processes -
- lyssie: The more things change.... ALL OF THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. - Step 7. Explain to your friends list how you like this one movie/show and the woman (possibly plural) in it because it subverts gender types and tropes, and how AWESOME it is, but how sad you are that you can never talk about it (or women) because everyone you know is a boyslasher. And you wouldn't want to dare harsh their squee by talking about vaginas. -
- le_mru: metafandom - Lubię het, ale kiedy jest to het - z braku słów - subwersywny, nie heteronormatywne pici polo, które nas otacza i które spływa z ekranów kin i telewizorów. Bo chyba też po to jest fandom, żeby tworzyć alternatywę, coś nowego, coś innego. -
- hl: about: warnings - A warning is not a judgement on the people who made the content. It can also be accompanied with a private or public judgement (to say anything else would be disingenuous), but a warning in itself has nothing to do with the author of that content. It's a call made by the one putting up the warning (i.e. it's a call made by a person or a group, and thus, invariably subjective and flawed) done for the benefit of the people who don't, yet, know the content. -
- mistresscurvy: On Privilege and Responsibility - There is a huge difference between saying that there are instances of problematic characterizations or plot points or objectification that should be addressed and saying that women aren't allowed to write about gay men's experiences fullstop. The fact that there are examples of fail within a genre doesn't mean that the entirety of the genre is rotten. -
11:48 pm
- such_heights: help, help, I'm being erased! - In the great sprawling land that is the internet, it makes no sense to say "there should be more x!" and mean "there should be less y!". -
- vamp_ress: A Man's World - Or, my absolute pet peeve in slash fiction: writing a cast of about ten to fifteen male characters and making them all gay. I'm sorry, I'm a big slash fan, but even I need at least a little reality in the stuff I read to find enjoyment in it. I find these types of stories the most problematic in terms of what miera_c is describing, because they seem to totally erase the female perspective from a story pretending the world truly only consists of gay men. -
- autumnus: About female characters and fandom - Check how many people are even bothering to talk about the topic, the key part of it: the erasure of women in fan work. The het/slash is presented as a consequence/instance of a deeper problem, not as the problem itself. However if slash was not mentioned, would this have even made metafandom? -
- jesse_the_k: [in access_fandom] Making Space for Wheelchairs and Scooters - There are many elements to making your event wheelchair-accessible. -
- lightgetsin: So it turns out there are people with disabilities in fandom - You guys, seriously. There are disabled people in fandom. In fandom in particular because internet socializing may be the only kind many people have access to. We are on your friends lists, and we read your comments, and yeah, I'm sure I'm not the only one who can tell when you assume that every person reading you is able-bodied, because that's just what people are, right? -
- elizah_jane: Everybody's Free (To Be Fannish) - I had occasion recently to link someone to the sunscreen thing and it got me thinking. I'm sure that there are approximately half a billion of these for fandom, but whatever. Here's mine! -
- carolyn_claire: Okay, now I'm getting annoyed. - Pointing out "negative trends" and then calling any refutation of those supposed trends by the participants "excuses" and refusing to listen isn't a productive way to add value to any discussion and reveals your biases. -
- musesfool: it's all how you use it - It never fails to amaze me that we place female characters in such an awful catch-22. They can't be perfect, but they can't be flawed! They can't be seen as vulnerable, but they can't be too strong! If they're assertive and confident and good at what they do, they're Mary Sues at least and arrogant bitches at worst, but if they're soft-spoken and meek, they're either doormats or have some secret scheming agenda and only APPEAR to be sweet. -
11:53 pm
acari: Monday, January 25, 2009
- such_heights: help, help, I'm being erased! - In the great sprawling land that is the internet, it makes no sense to say "there should be more x!" and mean "there should be less y!". -
- vamp_ress: A Man's World - Or, my absolute pet peeve in slash fiction: writing a cast of about ten to fifteen male characters and making them all gay. I'm sorry, I'm a big slash fan, but even I need at least a little reality in the stuff I read to find enjoyment in it. I find these types of stories the most problematic in terms of what miera_c is describing, because they seem to totally erase the female perspective from a story pretending the world truly only consists of gay men. -
- autumnus: About female characters and fandom - Check how many people are even bothering to talk about the topic, the key part of it: the erasure of women in fan work. The het/slash is presented as a consequence/instance of a deeper problem, not as the problem itself. However if slash was not mentioned, would this have even made metafandom? -
- jesse_the_k: [in access_fandom] Making Space for Wheelchairs and Scooters - There are many elements to making your event wheelchair-accessible. -
- lightgetsin: So it turns out there are people with disabilities in fandom - You guys, seriously. There are disabled people in fandom. In fandom in particular because internet socializing may be the only kind many people have access to. We are on your friends lists, and we read your comments, and yeah, I'm sure I'm not the only one who can tell when you assume that every person reading you is able-bodied, because that's just what people are, right? -
- elizah_jane: Everybody's Free (To Be Fannish) - I had occasion recently to link someone to the sunscreen thing and it got me thinking. I'm sure that there are approximately half a billion of these for fandom, but whatever. Here's mine! -
- carolyn_claire: Okay, now I'm getting annoyed. - Pointing out "negative trends" and then calling any refutation of those supposed trends by the participants "excuses" and refusing to listen isn't a productive way to add value to any discussion and reveals your biases. -
- musesfool: it's all how you use it - It never fails to amaze me that we place female characters in such an awful catch-22. They can't be perfect, but they can't be flawed! They can't be seen as vulnerable, but they can't be too strong! If they're assertive and confident and good at what they do, they're Mary Sues at least and arrogant bitches at worst, but if they're soft-spoken and meek, they're either doormats or have some secret scheming agenda and only APPEAR to be sweet. -
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oulangi.livejournal.com: Tuesday, January 26th, 2010