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January 23rd, 2010
05:29 pm
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inalasahl: Saturday, January 23, 2010
- sprat: Stupid on the internet - this kind of thing is why I don't a hundred percent buy the recent wave of objections from gay guys about how slash is appropriative; I'd be a lot more willing to consider their arguments -- some of which actually seem pretty valid, to be honest -- if they didn't all seem to come hand in hand with misogynist bullshit like this. -
- elfinblaze: On female characters in fanfic - before I discovered fandom I only wrote female characters, and while I can thank fandom for teaching me how to write decent male characters, I think it's time to stop writing all these stories featuring men and focus on the female characters I love. Because there are so many, and I don't write about them nearly enough. -
- ithiliana: First Post on Fethisizing (expect MOAR) - I KNOW about the ways straight porn fetishizes along the axes of race and gender, and I suddenly wondered if gay porn (for men) does the same thing: the answer seems to be yes, yes, it does. -
- zvi: [in podficmeta] Is it real or is it Memorex? - I'm curious what everyone thinks about podfic's status as a fanactivity. Do you think about it as an independent work of art itself, or is it a way of offering additional accessibility for fanfiction? -
- lomedet: [in podficmeta] podfic feedback: how (when, why) do you do it? - Have you come up with a successful strategy for leaving feedback that doesn't feel unduly labor-intensive? Have you given up on direct feedback in favor of recs? If you do go back and leave podfic feedback, does it feel strange to do so at a remove from your immediate response? -
- the_shoshanna: A handy guide to media fan convention art shows - just as fans shared fanfic and art in the zines that were and are displayed, shared, bought, and sold in convention dealers' rooms, one of the places that fans shared, admired, and bought and sold fan art was in convention art shows. And although much fan art, like much fanfic and other fannish stuff, has moved onto the Internet, con art shows continue, offering you the chance to see and share and drool on -- and even buy and sell -- "hard-copy" fannish artistic creations -
- bookshop: 1. Subtext. 2. Fandom misogyny. 3. coverfail. - More queer expression in our media. More women in our fandom. More cultural/racial/ethnic diversity in our literature. We need more. And, at least within fan-generated spaces, we can do more. -
- stultiloquentia: Peeve du jour - help me brainstorm books, shows, movies or fanworks containing an incompetent, laughable, malicious, egotistical or just plain ineffectual psychologist, therapist or social worker.
What books shows, movies or fanworks have notably good portrayalsâ”by which I mean nuanced and sympathetic, not necessarily right all the timeâ”of same?
- zvi: What is this, I don't even - I don't doubt that bookshop is accurately reporting her experience, but that's not the slash fandom, not the Dreamwidth circle or LJ flist, that makes up my experience of fandom. Just sayin'. -
- tielan: on female characters "not being good enough" for main male characters - So here's my question: Why is it that the primary female character(s) in any canon are never good enough for the main male character?The female character is permitted, allowed, acceptable, so long as she doesn't fall for the main male character (whom fans have generally shipped with the secondary - read, geeky - male character). -
- jesse_the_k: [in podficmeta] Should readers get permission to make podfic? - Current metadata don't state whether the podfic's reader has the writer's permission. Would the absence, permission or refusal of writer's OK change how you'd choose or read podfics? -
- colorblue: There are a hundred things (okay, three) - The level of fuckedupness, both in the premise of this story and in the way you and others are framing this debate, is so enraging to me. -
- kalpurna: and then they get married!!! - Romance has certain goals! It has a ton of baggage that is unexamined! Slash examines itself quite a lot more, and is generally more diverse in output and liberal in politics, not being dependent on a publishing industry, but this stuff is way down deep at the middle of both genres. -
05:30 pm
inalasahl: Saturday, January 23, 2010
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sprat: Stupid on the internet - this kind of thing is why I don't a hundred percent buy the recent wave of objections from gay guys about how slash is appropriative; I'd be a lot more willing to consider their arguments -- some of which actually seem pretty valid, to be honest -- if they didn't all seem to come hand in hand with misogynist bullshit like this. -
- elfinblaze: On female characters in fanfic - before I discovered fandom I only wrote female characters, and while I can thank fandom for teaching me how to write decent male characters, I think it's time to stop writing all these stories featuring men and focus on the female characters I love. Because there are so many, and I don't write about them nearly enough. -
- ithiliana: First Post on Fethisizing (expect MOAR) - I KNOW about the ways straight porn fetishizes along the axes of race and gender, and I suddenly wondered if gay porn (for men) does the same thing: the answer seems to be yes, yes, it does. -
- zvi: [in podficmeta] Is it real or is it Memorex? - I'm curious what everyone thinks about podfic's status as a fanactivity. Do you think about it as an independent work of art itself, or is it a way of offering additional accessibility for fanfiction? -
- lomedet: [in podficmeta] podfic feedback: how (when, why) do you do it? - Have you come up with a successful strategy for leaving feedback that doesn't feel unduly labor-intensive? Have you given up on direct feedback in favor of recs? If you do go back and leave podfic feedback, does it feel strange to do so at a remove from your immediate response? -
- the_shoshanna: A handy guide to media fan convention art shows - just as fans shared fanfic and art in the zines that were and are displayed, shared, bought, and sold in convention dealers' rooms, one of the places that fans shared, admired, and bought and sold fan art was in convention art shows. And although much fan art, like much fanfic and other fannish stuff, has moved onto the Internet, con art shows continue, offering you the chance to see and share and drool on -- and even buy and sell -- "hard-copy" fannish artistic creations -
- bookshop: 1. Subtext. 2. Fandom misogyny. 3. coverfail. - More queer expression in our media. More women in our fandom. More cultural/racial/ethnic diversity in our literature. We need more. And, at least within fan-generated spaces, we can do more. -
- stultiloquentia: Peeve du jour - help me brainstorm books, shows, movies or fanworks containing an incompetent, laughable, malicious, egotistical or just plain ineffectual psychologist, therapist or social worker.
What books shows, movies or fanworks have notably good portrayalsâ”by which I mean nuanced and sympathetic, not necessarily right all the timeâ”of same?
- zvi: What is this, I don't even - I don't doubt that bookshop is accurately reporting her experience, but that's not the slash fandom, not the Dreamwidth circle or LJ flist, that makes up my experience of fandom. Just sayin'. -
- tielan: on female characters "not being good enough" for main male characters - So here's my question: Why is it that the primary female character(s) in any canon are never good enough for the main male character?The female character is permitted, allowed, acceptable, so long as she doesn't fall for the main male character (whom fans have generally shipped with the secondary - read, geeky - male character). -
- jesse_the_k: [in podficmeta] Should readers get permission to make podfic? - Current metadata don't state whether the podfic's reader has the writer's permission. Would the absence, permission or refusal of writer's OK change how you'd choose or read podfics? -
- colorblue: There are a hundred things (okay, three) - The level of fuckedupness, both in the premise of this story and in the way you and others are framing this debate, is so enraging to me. -
- kalpurna: and then they get married!!! - Romance has certain goals! It has a ton of baggage that is unexamined! Slash examines itself quite a lot more, and is generally more diverse in output and liberal in politics, not being dependent on a publishing industry, but this stuff is way down deep at the middle of both genres. -