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dodyskin.livejournal.com: Sunday 15th May, 2005

suelac 2005-05-11: suelac: heads-up to Thea, and some rambling meta: There's this whole discussion going on over in SGA circles about privileging the canon, about writers who go for style over emotional connection to the source -- or are perceived as doing so, and it's sort of spread into a general discussion about fannishness.

ajhalluk 2005-05-14: ajhalluk: Stand Clear of the Doors: I suddenly got struck by something about Lust Over Pendle that had never occurred to me before. Judging by the prevalence and importance of scenes involving them, I was quite clearly obsessed by doors and thresholds throughout the entire thing. WTF?... Now, as you know, I personally do believe in sub-text, and I also believe that when one sets off to write something - even a shopping list, in my case - it is quite likely to shoot off in a radically different direction from that originally intended. Something interposes itself between one's brain and one's fingers.

sistermagpie 2005-05-13: sistermagpie: Down a Dark Hallway: It's good to remember every once in a while just how much is created by an original author (and a fic author too, but even more an original author). Basically, everything is created. So every book, no matter how realistic, is going to leave out anything the author isn't interested in, and stress things the author is interested in, or believes are true.

commodorified 2005-05-14: commodorified:: Fan fiction seems to me to suggest that women DO find both emotional and mental pleasure in deft combinations of the two forms of experience -- as we seem to select texts wth very high levels of organizing adaptation and restricted or unfulfilled lock-picking triggers and deliberately and often very skillfully 'rebalance' them.

profshallowness 2005-05-14: profshallowness: Fin: As a reader, I've gone on a journey from wanting a happy ending always, please (and puzzlement and rage at not getting it - in hindsight it's best that one's first exposure to the Romeo and Juliet story is NOT a ballet); to the belief that unhappy endings are so deep and speak to the human condition, which tied into the fact that I don't like them, but they crop up much more in 'quality' or 'literary' more than the 'trash' or 'juvenalia' that I preferred; to acknowledging that stories have their own ending, and I will appreciate them even to the point of liking an ambiguous ending when reading it!!!

queenitsy 2005-05-14: fanthropology: Speaking of Mary Sue...: From what I gather, sooner or later she shows up in every fandom. But I've been wondering for awhile: do people think that certain fandoms are more prone to Mary Sues, and if so, why? What elements of a fandom (or of the canon it's based around) make it more Sue prone?

scribblus_ink 2005-05-13: scribbulus_ink: Playing with Snape: It seems there's been quite a bit of meta about fanon vs canon Snape; I haven't really followed it, although I find it interesting that there's been a rash of it about Snape in particular since I haven't seen such discussion about any other character.

shellmidwife 2005-05-15: shellmidwife: more thinky thoughts: Ever since I read [info]julad's post on Warm Fuzzies and Cold Pricklies, I've been thinking about it and the way that paradigm can be expanded. The first thing I thought of when I read the post was that not only are their writers/stories who fall into different ends of that continuum, there are also characters that do, and, gee, that's interesting.

pinkdormouse 2005-05-15: pinkdormouse: On Female Strength and Characterisation: bwinter was talking about females in the Star Wars Universe and it got me thinking. I get into silly debates on LJ (and sometimes elsewhere) about my insistence on using the term 'strong female character' for three dimensional, not-overly-stereotypical females in any brand of fiction or other media.

bwinter 2005-05-14: bwinter: My name is Beth Winter, and I am a Star Wars geek [includes art from EpisodeIII]: Star Wars, like Lord of the Rings, is a modern attempt at mythology. It reaches back to the fairytale conventions, with knights and princesses and Dark Lords. With one key difference: in LOTR, the lack of important female characters (Arwen the housewife, Galadriel the coward hypocrite, Eowyn the drama queen) is a discord with me. In SW canon (because I don't read Extended Universe, and I'm most definitely NOT a Mara Jade fan), even the fact the token females are respectively a Queen and a Princess, I'm perfectly fine with it. The hell?

wickedwords 2005-05-14: wickedwords: Here there be dragons: Just a sidebar on the whole SGA discussion: ... Badly-written, underly-emotional writing is not something that I am going to encounter, because those stories are gen and I don't go to the gen space -- in fact, I actively avoid it.

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